PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:01 pm

Advance wrote:John, it sounds like what you are really advocating as educate and best practices for pskiters is "do not park illegally when kiting"
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Adam,

I'm not sure where or how you're coming up with that interpretation, but I'd be happy to tighten my statement up to remove any wiggle room.

When snow kiting lake Keechelus, do not park illegally in the chain up lanes on I-90. Please be a good steward of the kiting community by walking in from the Gold Creak or the Hyak snow park after purchasing th appropriate parking pass.


Question 4 ya Adam, have I eschewed all obfuscation surrounding my intent??

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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:08 am

stringy wrote:
Advance wrote:John, it sounds like what you are really advocating as edicate and best practices for pskiters is "do not park illegally when kiting"

we used to park on the freeway when kiting at secret spot in the gorge.
this problem eventually was solved when the troopers began issuing tickets.
I am sure the freeway parking will be handled swift once that shit starts happening.



Jim

'Eventually' Didn't we all ride that spot for 4-5 years before it got shut down?
Do yo believe a snowy mountain pass is the same as pulling off on the shoulder of i-84 in the gorge?!?

Are you passively suggesting the practice of illegally parking in chain up zone for recreational purposes is ok? Please be clear (AS IN BLACK AND WHITE)

Bonus question: Why do you think there are no cars with snowmobiles trailers park there?
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:09 am

PSKITE Rider's Etiquette


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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby AndyD » Sun May 13, 2012 11:22 am

^ Including your online behavior...
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby PinkVoldo » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:37 pm

Oh, you didn't! OOO!
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby stringy » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:56 pm

after a week on the oregon coast, it's appropriate to communicate wave ettiquette. found this on nwkite.
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-26620-0-asc-0.html

Ft Stevens is unique in that there are both people downwinding and those point sailing on sandbars (we surf these sandbars when its not windy so don't always want to downwind when it is).

Everyone (including experienced wave riders) makes mistakes or misinterprets the intent of other riders from time to time so this is not a bitch session. Waves are a precious resource and people work hard to search out and find a good wave offshore.

Just because you are taking off on a downwinder gaggle does not give you priority on waves for those point sailing at good sandbars (i.e. lot b and lower) - wait until it is clear and go out and find/chase your own wave in, chances are that someone is keying on it and has priority -

1) It is not ok to short jibe a wave if someone is tracking on it - classic downwinder move, just cuz you are downwinding doesn't give you special rights

2) It is not ok to be tracking on a wave and then fade or decide to fall back on the next wave because you think it is better - someone is probably on it tracking it too

3) When heading back out and someone is on a wave coming in, make your decision quickly to:

> To go downwind hard to avoid the wave rider (don't make him/her guess)

> OR pinch hard upwind to avoid the same rider (this means you may hit some whitewater so know how to "hike" or float the whitewater)

> OR transition/jibe back to the beach

* DO NOT keep your tack and head straight at the wave rider causing him/her to adjust just because you don't want to lose ground - regardless of starboard you do not have priority in this case.

4) Up the line vs down the line. We get a lot of onshore wind so going up the line can be fun but if you are going up the line on a wave where another kiter is going down the line, you do not have priority.

5) Upwind kiter has priority. This is tough sometimes. If you are on a wave that is facing up but hasn't broken and someone upwind of you gets on the wave after you've already started to track on it, that is tough. In surfing this isn't an issue, the surfer deeper on the wave has priority, but in surfing you have to be in the right spot, you can't paddle fast enough when out of position, then go right to the deepest takeoff point like a kiter can. I don't know here but usually I don't race to drop in on someone if they're about to ride a wave. The exception is if they don't know what they are doing AND they are quite a ways down the line and obviously not in the right position (shoulder soldier).

Have fun, be safe, and start drooling for 6-8' this weekend (that's head high) - these rules are more important when the swell is in.
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby C.J. » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:37 pm

Thanks for sharing stringy! I just learned a whole lot of neat important stuff!
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:22 pm

stringy wrote:after a week on the oregon coast, it's appropriate to communicate wave ettiquette. found this on nwkite.
http://www.nwkite.com/forums/t-26620-0-asc-0.html



STRINGY,

THANK YOU FOR SHARING!!!

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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby JackZ » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:35 pm

thanks for the info on your site guys !
I have visited ( from Alberta Canada ) and kited on the coast and the Columbia at several locations . This type of info about wave and site etiquette is great for people who come to share the stoke !
I always try to find local kiters to introduce myself and ask questions about where to kite what dangers to be aware of and my skill level so they know where to keep me . I prefer this as I am rewarded with info that you guys had to take the time to get . It stands to reason to respect that .
Waves ! Awesome fun for a prairie boy ( 54 but feel young under the kite ! ) Again , I have heard the ugly stories of keyed cars and fistycuffs over wave riding misunderstandings ( put nicely ), SO , even more important to ASK . I love any wave so I don't mind staying completely away from those special spots unless invited .
Oh ya , on Maui a while back I asked if I'd gotten in the way , was I doing OK ? " Oh your ok Jack sure , any body with a helmet and a gopro on their head we give a little slack to " , chuckle chuckle .
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby PinkVoldo » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:00 am

Here's a good one: Don't ride right through someone's canopy! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkTv_nGWrEQ
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