PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

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PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:10 am

In JP's original post, he wrote:Does anyone else believe the time has come for this community to come together on a topic that has been treated like REPELLENT on this forum over the years by developing and promoting a riders etiquette so that our on the water actions will treat our co-riders in a positive manner?

Here's an example of a framework that could be use. Does anyone have any input? Anyone?!?


Thank you to all that have contributed.
Here's our work in progress.

General Beach Etiquette:

1) Pump up your kite, THEN lay out your lines. Tuna, SickNick
2) Roll up your lines / maintain a small beach foot print. SickNick

General Riders Etiquette:

1) Do not kite in the launch and land area
2) Stay away from swimmers by two kite lengths
3) Up wind rider keep kite high so that they do not interfere with riders down wind of them.
4) Down wind rider keep kite low so they don't interfere with riders up wind of them
5) if that doesn’t work - see **Kitesurfing Right of Way** list below.
6) Look before you turn pmcd
7) Hurry up and get out of the way when launching or landing. Someone else if probably trying to launch or land and is waiting for you to move. pmcd
8) Don't ride near/around slider if you aren't hitting slider
9) heavily paraphrased Keep an eye out for other s on the water & offer help. eg. board retrieval Stingy & Scott
10) Don't throw unhooked moves near the beach and crash your kite at GG on a northerly like I did - that was bad edicate on my part and there were people around. vance. You can re-write this baby.
11) Make the students' experience less stressful, get don't get in their Wind Window. Tuna, pmcd
12) Do not stand around with your kite in the air. pmcd
13) Respect posted distance restrictions on any and all Washington States Bridges (eg. i-90, 520, Hood Canal, T-Narrows). jp, kip


DB Slick, Pond Riders Etiquette:

1) Jetty Island Pond Limit is 12 riders at a time ((any more and Kooky $hit tend to happen per Steve Sibborn))
2) Maintain your position in the rotation. If unsure what a ‘rotation’ is, ask. If you are scared to ask, just sit on the sidelines for a bit and watch. It is easy to understand
3)


Slider Etiquette:
1) Maintain your position in the rotation. If unsure what a ‘rotation’ is, ask. If you are scared to ask, just sit on the sidelines for a bit and watch. It is easy to understand
2) Remove fins from board (to not damage slider)
3) Help with Slider install, removal, orientation etc…
4) Don't ride near/around slider if you aren't hitting slider


**Kitesurfing Right of Way rules and regulations**

(I found on the Chicago kitesurfing site - it was the first one to come up when I searched and looks good to me)
Note: Always use proper judgement and give up your right-of-way by yielding to anyone, or anything, that may appear to create a situation with your position, or upcoming position.

Right hand forward while riding is Starboard Tack (and generally has right-of-way).
Left hand forward is Port Tack.

When two kiteboarders converge in a way that may lead to a collision, the kiteboarder on port tack must give way to the kiteboarder on starboard tack. Starboard tack has right of way in this situation.

When two kiteboarders converge, and they are on the same tack, the kiteboarder most upwind must give way to the kiteboarder most downwind. The leeward kiteboarder has right of way in this situation.

When two kiteboarders converge in a way that may lead to the kites colliding, the upwind kiteboarder must fly their kite as high as possible, and the downwind kiteboarder must fly their kite as low as possible.

A kiteboarder must give way to anyone they are overtaking. The kiteboarder being overtaken has the right of way, and is responsible for maintaining course while being overtaken.

Always give right of way to anyone who enters the 200' safety zone downwind of you.
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby Salmonslayer » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:32 am

I ran out of repellant, so here are a few suggestions

Some of these might be combined.

Get in and out quickly when landing and launching.
Do not stand around with your kite in the air.
Do not kite in the launch and land area.
Stay away from swimmers by two kite lengths
The kite schools don't take up that much area. Out of courtesy, please give them space so the instructors can focus on the lesson instead of worrying about other kite boarders.
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:36 am

PMCD wrote:I ran out of repellant, so here are a few suggestions


That's good to hear!!
Thanks for contributing!!!

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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby Brian » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:40 am

I'd like to add

1) if someone is bringing in(saving) a board/person/ or kite into shore, they have the right of way no matter what. so performers get the hell out of the way.
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby Sick Nick » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:43 am

Rolled up your lines for all kites left on the beach


This is number 1 by far. If you want to rig your lines before you're ready to ride, then attach them and roll those suckers back up. At a beach like Carkeek there's so little room, that 2 sets of lines literally takes up the whole beach...makes us look bad to all the non-kiter beach users and is also annoying for other kiters.

Doing this when visiting somewhere else will earn you respect with the local posse, so get in the habit here at home.

The focus of on the beach etiquette should be limiting our group's footprint on the beach. The only thing non-kiters should notice about us is how nifty it looks when we ride, not how much space we take up on the beach, or how close they just got to being beheaded, or how some angry dude in a wetsuit yelled at you for being in the way.
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:44 am

Brian wrote:I'd like to add

1) if someone is bringing in(saving) a board/person/ or kite into shore, they have the right of way no matter what. so performers get the hell out of the way.


Brian,

Thanks for contribution and I completely agree!!!

Daniel, Please make this topic a sticky. Thanks!

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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby eric » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:45 am

I don't know if this topic has been treated totally like a repellent, but I agree that maybe a thread with general etiquette would be good and we could bring it up each year as a reminder. I don’t have another example, but maybe we can use this thread as the guide (I just added to your original post)

j.p. wrote:General Beach Etiquette:

1) Roll up your lines for all kites left on the beach
2) Move unused kites out of the 'launching area' or put them away
3) Launch and land people when you can
..
.
General Riders Etiquette:

1) Up wind rider keep kite high so that they do not interfere with riders down wind of them.
2) Down wind rider keep kite low so they don't interfere with riders up wind of them
3) if that doesn’t work - see **Kitesurfing Right of Way** list below.
4) Look before you turn
5) Hurry up and get out of the way when launching or landing. Someone else if probably trying to launch or land and is waiting for you to move.

-) Don't ride near/around slider if you aren't hitting slider
..
.
**Kitesurfing Right of Way rules and regulations**
(I found on the Chicago kitesurfing site - it was the first one to come up when I searched and looks good to me)
Note: Always use proper judgement and give up your right-of-way by yielding to anyone, or anything, that may appear to create a situation with your position, or upcoming position.
Note: Right hand forward while riding is Starboard Tack (and generally has right-of-way).
Left hand forward is Port Tack.
When two kiteboarders converge in a way that may lead to a collision, the kiteboarder on port tack must give way to the kiteboarder on starboard tack. Starboard tack has right of way in this situation.

When two kiteboarders converge, and they are on the same tack, the kiteboarder most upwind must give way to the kiteboarder most downwind. The leeward kiteboarder has right of way in this situation.

When two kiteboarders converge in a way that may lead to the kites colliding, the upwind kiteboarder must fly their kite as high as possible, and the downwind kiteboarder must fly their kite as low as possible.

A kiteboarder must give way to anyone they are overtaking. The kiteboarder being overtaken has the right of way, and is responsible for maintaining course while being overtaken.

Always give right of way to anyone who enters the 200' safety zone downwind of you.

Pond Riders Etiquette:

0) Jetty Island Pond Limit is 12 riders at a time ((any more and Kooky $hit tend to happen per Steve Sibborn))
1) Maintain your position in the rotation. If unsure what a ‘rotation’ is, ask. If you are scared to ask, just sit on the sidelines for a bit and watch. It is easy to understand
2)
..
.
Slider Etiquette:
1) Maintain your position in the rotation. If unsure what a ‘rotation’ is, ask. If you are scared to ask, just sit on the sidelines for a bit and watch. It is easy to understand
2) Remove fins from board (to not damage slider)
3) Help with Slider install, removal, orientation etc…
..
.
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby j.p. » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:52 am

eric wrote:I don't know if this topic has been treated totally like a repellent, but I agree that maybe a thread with general etiquette would be good and we could bring it up each year as a reminder.

Eric, FYI. 1) There's 12 years of forum experience behind that statement
2) thanks for contributing!
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby eric » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:54 am

j.p. wrote:
eric wrote:I don't know if this topic has been treated totally like a repellent, but I agree that maybe a thread with general etiquette would be good and we could bring it up each year as a reminder.

Eric, FYI. 1) There's 12 years of forum experience behind that statement
2) thanks for contributing!


1) no doubt. I was trying to change my sentence structure to say that I have only been on the forum for 3 years, but it didn't sound right, so I just omitted that part. I should have said "in my experience"
2) no problem.
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Re: PSKITE Rider's Etiquette

Postby Tuna » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:56 pm

pump up your kite, THEN lay out your lines.

Make the students' experience less stressful, don't get in their Wind Window.

Bring beer.
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