Golfer's Elbow

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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby Salmonslayer » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:38 pm

KitesofFury wrote:Also ride Naish kites as they have low bar pressure (plug, plug :))


I have 2 Naish Bars that are going up on Ebay soon. I already sold one Monday. (plug, plug :))
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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby srch4wind » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:48 pm

Reading between the lines here...do cloud kites have a lot of bar pressure? Someone else I know rides cloud and has kiters elbow....
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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby Freeride » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:45 pm

KitesofFury wrote:Yea. I had golfers elbow a couple of years ago and had to go to physical therapy to get it sorted out. Still get it. A big issue is that I always use my mouse with my right hand and this is the arm always effected. Try and switch mouse hands at work. word. Also ride Naish kites as they have low bar pressure (plug, plug :))


Doesn't correlate for me - I use the right hand for my mouse and it's the left hand that's the problem.
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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby Freeride » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:49 pm

srch4wind wrote:Reading between the lines here...do cloud kites have a lot of bar pressure? Someone else I know rides cloud and has kiters elbow....


I think all 14+ kites can have a lot of bar pressure. I use wider bar settings on 12+ sizes as well which probably contributes.

From what I've read the condition comes from gripping a bar or shaft (haha) too tightly. Since this is Golfer's Elbow (different than Tennis elbow which occurs on the outside) one of the recommendations is to not grip the clubs as tightly. I'm going to try to not death grip my bar. I sometimes think a thicker bar would help too. The problem in my case though definitely correlates to starting to use 17m kites...could just be timing though of an overuse injury. I also started to do longer sessions this past year, so it's all probably adding up.
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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby Salmonslayer » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:19 pm

Freeride wrote: I sometimes think a thicker bar would help too.


Maybe you should add some thick hockey stick tape or similar to the bar to test as a temp solution/experement.

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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby IslandKiter » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:44 pm

I used to get elbow issues wakeboarding. What helped me was consciously riding more symmetrical. Ie, I now always get up riding switch. That alone was enough to compensates for a bunch of stuff I do regular that was killing me arm.

Try riding in ways to take pressure off the arm that is bugging you.

Simple changes can sometimes make a big difference over time.


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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby Jimbo » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:08 pm

Check out a product called Pussy Cream. :P :) ;)

Seriously though... A combo of Acupuncture and deep tissue massage really helps to un-bind your forearm tissues. I recommend http://chopstixacupuncture.com/ in Fremont. She is a friend of mine and a lifelong athlete, so she gets it.

Long term, definitely think about other kites with lighter bar pressure and other remedies for not using that elbow so much. :D

I also think that control bars could be slightly V shaped kind of like an ergonomic keyboard to put your hands in a more natural position.

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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby stringy » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:03 pm

srch4wind wrote:Reading between the lines here...do cloud kites have a lot of bar pressure? Someone else I know rides cloud and has kiters elbow....


from my experience with my 13m, cloud kites can have increased pressure when you become more powered up. when kiting in moderate conditions, it has negligible bar pressure.
my recommendation would be to stretch your arm/shoulder/wrist because they are all connected. keep them limber and that should help with your condition.
but that pussy cream sounds like the ticket. where do you get your supply jamesO?
yeah and kites with lighter bar pressure can help keep it at bay. I've been using the parks since they were introduced. they have light bar pressure.
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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby Jimbo » Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:38 pm

but that pussy cream sounds like the ticket. where do you get your supply jamesO?

I've been raiding your medicine cabinet Jim. :D :D

a little background...the pussy cream joke is a left over from College. Scenario: A room-mate might stub his toe or sever a limb or something and the other room-mate would say just put some pussy cream on it. This was classic dude behavior for a way of saying don't be such a whiny bitch and toughen up. It got to extreme levels too that if someone complained about anything and I mean anything, you could just look at him and pantomime opening a jar, or give them directions on where to go look for it, hand him $2 and tell him to go buy a new jar, tell him to ask his mother to send more or whatever. It got very creative.

When I saw this post originally I had a knee jerk reaction. Couldn't help myself. ;)

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Re: Golfer's Elbow

Postby scottnorby » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:00 am

I don't have any advice...but I have had the experience and I share the pain.
Started kiting in 1999/2000 and developed it within a year of riding those huge kites with mega bar pressure.
I remember stretching it and icing it a lot. And I remember it really bothered me when I paddle surfed. I was surfing a lot...and in cold water....and I wonder if that helped to use different muscles?
It went away on it's own and I haven't seen it since.
I had to laugh because google came out in 1999....and when it happened to me in 2000/2001 there definitely wasn't any information about tennis elbow for kitesurfers.
People just kept asking me "you got it flying a kite??"
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